Chris and Doug engage in a wide-ranging conversation about perfectionism, excellence and the difference between the two. They cover healthy and unhealthy attitudes, how raising kids has gotten harder, famous perfectionists, suicide, and - of course - Donald Trump. A decent effort for two non-perfectionists.
0.42 Definitions of perfectionism and excellence
4.00 Perfectionists' expectations of other people
5.25 Perfectionists and risk-taking
12.50 The promise and perils of continuous improvement
16.00 Growing up in a social media world
19.00 Is perfectionism getting worse?